I'm imagining something like a 'breadcrumb path' where I could click on any parent, grandparent etc. to change the hoist view to that item, or failing that a basic 'go to parent' button as with folders in a file explorer. Thanks!
Please excuse my ignorance of the Hoist submenu, duh.
Strangely, when I start IQ, the statusbar currently disappears after a matter of seconds. I have to uncheck and re-check it via the View menu to make it visible...
Noticed something else recently that I can recall happening before: When I click on a hyperlink in the Shown In column in Live Search, it seems to always open the target grid in a new tab. Didn't it used to jump to existing tabs when that grid is already open somewhere?
Another question: Could there be an option to jump to the results from live search via clicking on the hyperlink in the grid they are shown *without* hoisting the item, i. e. to show them in their 'natural environment' in the grid? Thanks!
The way it works is that Live-Search will look to see if the item is currently in the grid. If yes, it will show it in context. If not, it will hoist the grid to show the item.
If you turn off Hoist for that grid and do Live-Search again, does it work as you'd like ?
Perhaps the item is deep into a hierarchy and it isn't loaded (see setting for max items to load in background)
Ah, for some reason I never realized that was how it worked. I guess the whole Home grid metaphor was confusing me. So when Live search shows "(Home)" as the link description, that means that the item
1. is not itself assigned to any (currently open) grid and
2. is not a child of any parent currently shown in any such grid
3. unless the item was not loaded due to the 'max items' limitation?
So the difference between items showing "(none)" and "(Home)" is just that the former were created as children and stayed such while the latter were created as top level items or became such at some point? But neither type nor any of their parents is currently shown in a grid?
I realize that Shown in "(none)" items are displayed in a scratch grid when clicked on in Live Search while "(Home)" items appear in their home grid. This was also part of the reason for my confusion. It would have been more intuitive for me to have the "(Home)"-type items also appear in a scratch grid since they aren't actually part of their home grid anymore, it's just a trace of their history, right? I thought, if it pops up in the grid, it should be in there somewhere and I should be able to navigate upward from the hoisted view.
Would you consider making 'show "(Home)" items in scratch grid rather than home' an option?
Also, when I click on either "(Home)" or "(none)" items, I'm taken to either the home or the scratch grid, but the status bar on its left side states "Updated in ... sec", rather than "Child -> Parent: (none)", which I'd consider useful information at that point - it would let me see if there was any point in trying hoist:up.
Most items automatically have a Home. Items created before Home was implemented do not have a home unless set by the user (use the Properties pane to view the Home)
The shown in column shows which grids currently show that item. If one of these is the Home grid, it is shown in bold
If the item is not currently shown in any grid, the (Home) link is shown if the item has a Home and the (None) link is shown otherwise
By "currently shown", it does NOT mean opened grids, but as last saved. So whether a grid is opened and loaded or not has no impact on the behavior
I'll see if the Live-Search doc needs updating to make it clearer
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Hi Left, Hoist menu has a…
Hi Left,
HTH !
Pierre_Admin
Thanks a lot for your reply!…
Thanks a lot for your reply!
Please excuse my ignorance of the Hoist submenu, duh.
Strangely, when I start IQ, the statusbar currently disappears after a matter of seconds. I have to uncheck and re-check it via the View menu to make it visible...
Noticed something else recently that I can recall happening before: When I click on a hyperlink in the Shown In column in Live Search, it seems to always open the target grid in a new tab. Didn't it used to jump to existing tabs when that grid is already open somewhere?
Cheers
Another question: Could…
Another question: Could there be an option to jump to the results from live search via clicking on the hyperlink in the grid they are shown *without* hoisting the item, i. e. to show them in their 'natural environment' in the grid? Thanks!
Hi Left, The way it works is…
Hi Left,
The way it works is that Live-Search will look to see if the item is currently in the grid. If yes, it will show it in context. If not, it will hoist the grid to show the item.
HTH !
Pierre_Admin
IQ Designer
Ah, for some reason I never…
Ah, for some reason I never realized that was how it worked. I guess the whole Home grid metaphor was confusing me. So when Live search shows "(Home)" as the link description, that means that the item
1. is not itself assigned to any (currently open) grid and
2. is not a child of any parent currently shown in any such grid
3. unless the item was not loaded due to the 'max items' limitation?
So the difference between items showing "(none)" and "(Home)" is just that the former were created as children and stayed such while the latter were created as top level items or became such at some point? But neither type nor any of their parents is currently shown in a grid?
I realize that Shown in "(none)" items are displayed in a scratch grid when clicked on in Live Search while "(Home)" items appear in their home grid. This was also part of the reason for my confusion. It would have been more intuitive for me to have the "(Home)"-type items also appear in a scratch grid since they aren't actually part of their home grid anymore, it's just a trace of their history, right? I thought, if it pops up in the grid, it should be in there somewhere and I should be able to navigate upward from the hoisted view.
Would you consider making 'show "(Home)" items in scratch grid rather than home' an option?
Also, when I click on either "(Home)" or "(none)" items, I'm taken to either the home or the scratch grid, but the status bar on its left side states "Updated in ... sec", rather than "Child -> Parent: (none)", which I'd consider useful information at that point - it would let me see if there was any point in trying hoist:up.
Hi Left, That's not really…
Hi Left,
That's not really the way it works...
I'll see if the Live-Search doc needs updating to make it clearer
HTH !
Pierre_Admin
IQ Designer
I see, thanks for…
I see, thanks for elaborating on this. As you can guess, I don't use search all that often, which seems to re-kindle my ignorance from time to time...